Conversations with PolitiSpam

This page is dedicated to answering those lovable, forwarded pieces of political spam that abound this time of year.

I especially like those that ask me what I think, then dare me to say.

I especially like those.


I received this one via email in January, 2013. Other than removing a few formatting codes that did not translate, I have not altered the message or emphasis. My response to this is on the main page, titled Lesson from Lesson at Wounded Knee spam. For spam it is.
December 29, 2012 marked the 122nd Anniversary of the murder of 297 Sioux Indians at Wounded Knee Creek on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation in South Dakota. These 297 people, in their winter camp, were murdered by federal agents and members of the 7th Cavalry who had come to confiscate their firearms “for their own safety and protection. The slaughter began AFTER the majority of the Sioux had peacefully turned in their firearms. Up to that date there had been neither a Sioux outbreak or war. No citizen in Nebraska or Dakota had been killed, molested, and no property had been destroyed off the reservation. When the final round had flown, of the 297 dead or dying, two thirds (200) were women and children.Around 40 members of the 7th Cavalry were killed, over half cut down by friendly fire from the Hotchkiss guns of their overzealous comrades-in-arms. Twenty members of the 7th Cavalry were deemed National Heros and awarded the Medal of Honor for their acts of cowardice.
We do not hear of Wounded Knee today. It is not mentioned in our history classes or books. What little does exist about Wounded Knee is normally the sanitized Official Government Explanation or the historically and factually inaccurate depictions of the events leading up to the massacre on the movie screen.
Wounded Knee was among the first federally backed gun confiscation attempts in United States history. It ended in the senseless murder of 297 people.
Before you jump on the emotionally charged bandwagon for gun-control, take a moment to reflect on the real purpose of the Second Amendment- The right of the people to take up arms in defense of themselves, their families, and property in the face of invading armies or an oppressive government. The argument that the Second Amendment only applies to hunting and target shooting is asinine. When the United States Constitution was drafted hunting was an everyday chore carried out by men and women to put meat on the table each night, and target shooting was an unheard of concept, musket balls were a precious commodity in the wilds of early America, and were certainly not wasted target shooting. The Second Amendment was written by people who fled oppressive and tyrannical regimes in Europe, and refers to the right of American citizens to be armed for defense purposes should such tyranny rise in the United States.
As time goes on the average citizen in the United States continues to lose personal freedom or “liberty”. Far too many times unjust bills are passed and signed into law under the guise of “for your safety” or “for protection”. The Patriot Act signed into law by G.W. Bush, then expanded and continued by Barack Obama is just one of many examples of American citizens being stripped of their rights and privacy for safety. Now, the Right to Keep and Bear Arms is on the table, and will, most likely be taken away for our safety.
Before any American citizen blindly accepts whatever new firearms legislation that is about to be doled out, they should stop and think about something for just one minute-
Evil does exist in our world. It always has and always will. Throughout history evil people have committed evil acts. In the Bible one of the first stories is that of Cain killing Abel. We can not legislate “evil” into extinction. Good people will abide by the law, defective people will always find a way around it.
And another thought Evil exists all around us, but looking back at the historical record of the past 200 years across the globe, where is evil and malevolence most often found? In the hands of those with the power- governments. That greatest human tragedies on record and the largest loss of innocent human life can be attributed to governments. Who do governments target? “Scapegoats” and enemies within their own borders¦but only after they have been disarmed to the point where they are no longer a threat. Ask any Native American, and they will tell you it was inferior technology and lack of arms that contributed to their demise. Ask any Armenian why it was so easy for the Turks to exterminate millions of them, and they will answer “We were disarmed before it happened. Ask any Jew what Hitlers first step prior to the mass murders of the Holocaust was- confiscation of firearms from the people.
Wounded Knee is the prime example of why the Second Amendment exists, and why we shouldn’t be in such a hurry to surrender our Right to Bear Arms. Without the Second Amendment we have no way to defend ourselves and our families.
Silence makes cowards out of the best of men. Abraham Lincoln


I received this one in mid September, 2012. The original is in bold, my responses underneath. I have not edited the original for formatting, grammar or spelling.

Someone  please tell me what the HELL’s wrong withall the people that run this  country!!!!!!

Both Republicans  & Democrats

Well, it’s like this. The last couple of election cycles, a fringe element in pointy hats, financed by the political Right, was able to buy enough air time to convince working people that anybody who was working in Washington at running the Country had to go. As a result, we sent a bunch of good, experienced people home, both Democrats and Republicans, many of them All Stars who not only knew what they were doing but were doing it very well. In their place we sent those who had never done the job. They are worse than rookies, because they were totally unversed and untrained.

It isn’t smart to choose a rookie brain surgeon who has never held a scalpel, and none of us would choose for our favorite team to start a freshman quarterback who has never been into a game. Yet we did just that with Congress. We have the government we voted for. They did little to nothing but say “No”.

We should vote better next time, think more and listen to the TV less.

We’re  “broke” & can’t help our own Seniors, Veterans,

  Orphans,  Homeless etc.,???????????

Actually, we aren’t ‘broke’, and we can and do help our own Seniors, Veterans, Orphans and Children. The fact that the Republicans want to cut it all out for ideological and political reasons doesn’t mean that we can’t do it. Don’t believe their lies, check out the facts (from someone who is beholden to fact checking). It’s not that hard.

In  the last years we have provided aid to Haiti , Chile , Pakistan , Lybia , Egypt  and Turkey , And Japan

Literally,  BILLIONS of DOLLARS!!!

Yes, and two wars that soaked up billions of dollars and took thousands of lives, for no good reason and with no plan to cover the cost. Smarter people than we tell us that foreign aid is a good investment in finance, in trade, and in peace. Hawks just say that we have to keep the Russians and Chinese from doing it.

Our retired seniors living on a ‘fixed  income’ receive no aid

nor do they get any breaks while our government and  religious organizations pour

Hundreds of Billions

of $$$$$$’s and Tons  of Food

to Foreign Countries!

We have hundreds of adoptable

children  who are shoved aside to make room for the adoption of foreign  orphans.

Yeah… this one is really not true. First, the ‘fixed income’ our seniors live on is ‘aid’. It wouldn’t be there if the Democrats hadn’t fought to make it law (they were called Communists for it), and wouldn’t be there now if Democrats didn’t keep fighting to keep it (they’re called Socialists for it). Don’t forget that Reagan called it (Social Security) the biggest threat to Democracy in the world… just because it’s a social program that helps people who he, and his successors, think should just help themselves.

Seniors do get tax breaks. Seniors get drug breaks. Seniors get healthcare breaks. Seniors get transportation breaks. I’m not saying they couldn’t be better, but it’s just false to say they don’t exist at all.

And as for breaks, know who gets better breaks than Seniors? Oil companies. Drug companies. Billionaires. All worth billions, and they get better breaks than our Seniors. The President wants to change that, and he’s called a Socialist and criticized for ‘class warfare’. Personally, I think the Seniors who helped build this country deserve better breaks than the corporations that take advantage of it.

As for adoption, parents still choose their kids in America, not the government. Blame those wealthy enough to afford to adopt foreign kids for passing over the kids born here, not the government.

AMERICA:  a country where we have homeless without shelter, children going to bed hungry,  elderly going without ‘needed’ meds, and mentally ill without treatment  -etc,etc.

I agree, there’s absolutely no excuse for this in a civilized country. Other countries have figured it out, we’re way behind the curve on this one. I hate it when we’re not #1!  Unfortunately, the GOP in Congress does everything it can to cut what funds do go to help women and children with nutrition and healthcare and education, to help the poor with food and shelter and basic healthcare, to help the mentally ill. It was President Reagan that let loose the mentally ill from treatment. Many are still waiting for their meds to trickle down. The rest didn’t make it.


Any  Illegal alien gets the best medical treatment available (frankly NOT TRUE), can sign up for food  stamps and housing (well, can sign up anyway, doesn’t mean that they get them) go to the community center for help with transportation. . .  .etc etc.

Aren’t community centers for people who live in the community? Or do I need to start ‘carrying my papers’ here in Florida too?

We  send aid to Saudi Arabia, who hold us hostage with oil and they build mosques  with our money!

Ok, we suck up to the Saudi’s for oil. I don’t like that either. That’s why I vote to get off oil and use other energy sources. Unfortunately, I don’t have as much money as the Koch brothers.

And I don’t get your point about mosques, I guess because we drive to Church and Temple and our Mosques with their gas. Seems like an even trade to me.

They  have a ‘Bsenefit’ for the people of Haiti on 12 TV stations, ships and planes  lining up with food, water, tents clothes, bedding, doctors and medical  supplies.

We’re a compassionate, mostly charitable people who know that next time it could be us. There’s nothing wrong with that, it’s human in every sense of the word. What is wrong… is promising aid and having Tea Party Congressmen hold it up so that it never gets there. I was taught that a promise was your word, and people should be able to stand on your word. America especially should be able to stand on it’s word. Shame on those guys.

Imagine  if the *GOVERNMENT* gave ‘US’ the same support they give to other countries.

The government gives us much more than we give away. Unless, of course, you think that you built the roads and interstates, and schools and libraries, and fund the military and police and fire departments all by yourself. And if you do think that, Bless your heart, you must be one of those people Mr Reagan let out.

Sad isn’t it?

99% of people won’t have the

guts to forward  this.

I’m one of the 1% — I Just Did

That part about guts is weak and untrue. Most people won’t pass this on because they see it for what it is… tripe.

                                                                       GOD BLESS  AMERICA IN GOD WE TRUST

Don’t forget e pluribus unum!

                                                Better  To Remain Silent And Be Thought A Fool Than To Speak And Remove All  Doubt

This one threw me… first you say ‘Please tell me’ and then dare everybody to speak up, and then you say it’s better not to.

Nah, I disagree… it’s always better to speak up in a civil sort of way. Even (especially) if we disagree.

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